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ableism, fsf bs 

so apparently people are now excusing the creepy shit RMS does by blaming it on autism??? what the fuck??
Not only has he denied being autistic, it also feels just rlly insulting?? Like,, Im autistic and i dont go around doing creepy shit like he does,!! why would that be a valid excuse??? Being autistic doesn't require you to be a creepy asshole, and it's especially fucking weird when this is used as an excuse for an allistic person

fucking techbros >:(

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress the most autistic friend we've ever had didn't come anywhere near as inappropriate as RMS ~ 馃

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress or honestly for that matter, a lot of cis people we've had the displeasure of interacting with ~ 馃

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@pandentia @AgathaSorceress This *and*... your less famous/known friend has likely received more grief than RMS has over time because they don't have the privilege of a built in defensive fan base.

ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress he does give me some autistic vibes but his creepy behaviour has absolutely nothing to do with that

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@deletescape @AgathaSorceress he does supposedly legit have autism, and this isn't new. this excuse has been used as an for the past 20(?) years now. basically, as far as i can remember.

in that time, most autistic people learn that doing X creeps people the fuck out and so they stop doing that

he doesn't

he just keeps doing his creepy shit
and people keep excusing it

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@meena @deletescape I'm actually not sure if he's autistic or not.. I assumed that if he said that he's not he would probably know for sure but looks like it's a mess,,,, im not sure

either way,, yeah,,,, seriously fuck that

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress @meena @deletescape

whatever his neurotype I think it interacts badly with being a certain kind of famous and having groupies. he grew this layer of accomodating people and practices around him that buffered him from consequences. he just kept getting away with shit others wouldn't until it became unsustainable. spoiled tech subculture rock star trashing the hotel room

ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress I signed the statement a while ago where we GNU maintainers wanted rms out of GNU...

... and instead they bring him back into the FSF.

I'm so tired.

ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress Oh fuck it's the top HN comment, "he's autistic".

So. Fucking. What.

Argh, I'm upset by this.

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@JordiGH @AgathaSorceress It allows them to keep up the pretense that their self-diagnosed make-believe Asperger's allows them to be an asshole at any time.

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@patrick @AgathaSorceress At least there's some voice of reason, being drowned out:

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2

re: ableism, fsf bs, abuse, colonialism, wishing death 

@JordiGH ugghhhh the asshole reply in that thread listing Korea and anticolonial struggle as examples of cultures where right and wrong doesn't depend on others' comfort...

> * Consider treatment of children in Korea, where kids are forced, by their parents, to study 16 hours per day.

Yes, and Korean people recognize it's abusive as shit??

> * * Consider tactics used in many resistance movements against oppressive governments in Slavic cultures (and similar tactics recently adopted by oppressed African American communities in the US), which are explicitly about making people feel uncomfortable about wrongs.

I could go into all the ways this comparison is wrong but the most coherent words I can come up with are "Just die, asshole. Fucking eat shit and die."

re: ableism, fsf bs, abuse, colonialism, wishing death 

@ljwrites @JordiGH I just came back to this thread for this, notice how they are, in a sibling thread, trying to gaslight their interlocutor into believing they are confused with bs word salad.

HN will be mad if you don't like Paul the Not-Essay-ist, but lying and abusing your interlocutors is fine!

re: ableism, fsf bs, gaslighting & abuse 

@cadadr @JordiGH I dread to think of what this troll is like irl with people in an unequal power relationship with them 馃槵 I pray they don't have kids because imagine how much this rhetoric would fuck up a child.

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@JordiGH @AgathaSorceress What would it take for GNU maintainers to fork GNU?

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@patrick @AgathaSorceress There was a sort of movement for a fork a while ago, but there's a huge other half of that potential fork that is hellbent on rms apologia.

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@JordiGH @AgathaSorceress I suppose that "other half" could track GNU automatically until it finds maintainers?

re: ableism, fsf bs 

@JordiGH @patrick @AgathaSorceress That doesn't seem like a sustainable situation. I suggest cutting your losses, ripping off the bandage, doing the fork and moving on.

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@AgathaSorceress i wonder how much of this pile of excuses people are peddling would be extended to people who are, perhaps, autistic and female

i'm going to guess the answer to that is negative three, because "dumb bitch should know better and it's her problem if she doesn't"

sometimes seeing how much tech bros lionize this shit makes me realize that there's a non-zero population who views sexually harassing women in FOSS to be not just a given, or not just a side benefit, but the actual legitimate goal. like there are people tapping away merrily at their keyboards, hoping that someday they can get famous enough at doing free software to be able to rape women too.

then while knowing these people exist, somebody will try to guilt trip me saying that every true leftist has to use FOSS, and i laugh into the sunset

ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress my line, which I probably nicked off someone, is: Autism is an explanation not an excuse

ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress It's nothing to do with autism, free software, or even what he exactly said, it's the same ol', bunch jumping onto whatever they can to say "hey, look, cultural marxists are character-assassinating one of us to cancel him for his free speech".

And yes, all of those words were used in various places of the discussion, esp on the HN thread, by the types that wouldn't surprise anyone. Funny thing is they'd be shitting on RMS for extremism if the topic was FOSS.

ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress as the mom of a sweet, considerate autistic boy this is a particular Berserker Button 馃敧

ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress
NT moment,,

Random autistic person: gets laughed at by people for being "weird"

RMS: nooooooo he is autisticccc that justifies why he does thattttttttt

comedy.

ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress as much as I think the FSF is important, it's time to find a new face for the FSF. Stallman has been a disgusting person for years and its not okay

ableism, fsf bs 

@AgathaSorceress There is nothing quite as icky as watching people use conditions as a shield 鈥 except watching them use a nonexistent one as a shield for someone else.

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