i feel like theres just a certain gender of software that is like "we ❤️ open source | built with ❤️ go | your local enterprise-core uwu devops glassmorphism microsoft-core æzure.io smol startup | free software | request demo | please pay for our cloud subscription | $9.99/mo | scalable | built with ❤️ love | plug-and-play kubernetes integration"
yes im subtooting træfik. youre going in the "i do not wish to touch the wacky enterprise-core stuff" pile
sorry but everything about this kind of software is just like "how do we appeal as hard as possible to the 'i love capitalism i think we should make more capitalism' type of guy" and its the worst first impression when my intent behind using software is "solving problems i have" and not "adding another pointless layer to my ever-growing shiny tech stack to make the investors horny"
this is the capitalist equivalent of a hypothetical OOP programmer who instead of just initializing an integer variable normally creates a IGenericInitializationFactory interface and then creates an IntegerInitializationFactory class that then creates a static object where the only field is a number
@AgathaSorceress yeah we use a bunch of that stuff at work and i, would not describe it as particularly pleasant
i get that it's useful when you reach a certain scale but good lord the vibes are rancid
@AgathaSorceress Funnily enough what I've heard from people who work with the kubernetes etc. piles, their actual commercial production servers are significantly more of a pain while doing less different things than my Void-powered disaster
@AgathaSorceress This is actually the best analogy for the modern containerisation and clusterisation nonsense stacks I have ever seen
Like, where you could have an RPi serving your website with nginx, you instead stick it on an AWS instance and run it in Docker managed by Kubernetes because that's what's hip and cool in the Professional®️ Developer™️ Community©️ currently
re: half serious
@AgathaSorceress ...critters use containers for that?
Huh, we just use 'em because Everything Wants Dependencies and we don't want to clutter our main OS!
@AgathaSorceress weird thing is that i have found legitimate uses for factory interfaces and shit like that? they're really helpful in unit testing
they're factory interfaces that actually create useful classes, like parsers and transformers and stuff, rather than integers though
@AgathaSorceress ye i kno
ur totally right, there are so many Enterprise layers and they are just not necessary
@AgathaSorceress yes this
the fact that fizzbuzz enterprise edition doesn't have a dockerfile is honestly the thing that dates it the most as a work of satire ngl
@AgathaSorceress it would strike me that Just Works™ for a “cloud native” thing would mean “goes up in smoke”?
@AgathaSorceress Yea I always feel like the people building this sort of stuff and advertising it with ❤️ and love give me big https://octodon.social/@spacekookie/108390317386217949 vibes :')
@AgathaSorceress had to do a double take because i thought it was mocking fastapi. it all blends together.
@ln i just looked up fastapi and it looks less painful but seems to follow some of the same patterns
@AgathaSorceress it's quite nice to use, but the ads/sponsors section is a very specific kind of "uwu, notice me $corp"
@AgathaSorceress Yeah, the corporate cardboard-cutout "community" shit. Instant "will not use" for me as well...
Interesting sidenote: this also makes it really obvious how corporations just *are not* capable of doing genuine community building, and that as a genuine grassroots project you can exploit this weakness to completely wreck corporations in their own market even without meaningful funding, if you play your cards right
@joepie91 @AgathaSorceress I've seen corporations do good community building before. But then they pretty much completely fucked it up and changed the focus of their project away from being a community to being a tool but still marketing it as a community. (The thing in question being Glitch. I still use it, but it's sad what happened to it. It used to be way better. They got acquired, I wonder what will happen with them now. Hopefully they don't shut down before they implement a data export thing cus I have like 500 projects spanning 4 years on there, and I'd hate to lose that.)
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