*Hospital gets new patient information software* "Gee I wish the programmers had talked to some nurses and doctors instead of just other programmers"
*School gets new student assessment software* "Gee I wish the programmers had talked to some teachers and students instead of just other programmers"
*Construction company gets new materials tracking software* "Gee I wish the programmers had talked to some installers and estimators etc"
Just a trend I've noticed
@SallyStrange @scarly the company I used to work for were *awful* in a great many ways, but I have respect for the fact their business (patient records) got off the ground by having no idea what they were doing, going to pitches with clinicians, and asking them what the software should do, and making something that did that.
Asking questions of people? Finding out their needs? Listening to them? Geez what a bunch of pinko pansies
@SallyStrange I had to bite my tongue the other day at a consultant misquoting Henry Ford in order to justify not listening to his sales team about what gets sales...
I've been trying to help a project as of late that desperately needs a few bugs fixed, but is missing documentation on the bulk of its features. Really frustrating that the main dev basically uses that as a sales tool to sell his videos on how to use it, rather than just write usable docs.
@SallyStrange @scarly I’m overly amused by this because my spouse’s job literally is talking to nurses and doctors about how the patient management system should work and then turning that into specs for the programmers
Mind you, this is the first job she’s ever had where they really genuinely get the value of having someone do that
my field is accounting, and i have found that the accounting field has a frightening number of women in it that would have gone into computer science if comp sci hadn't been mortally toxic
one of my favorite bosses began her career as a computer programmer using punch cards to do fancy mathematics; the field chased her away with the extreme shift towards male dominance
also, a lot of that institutional software is proprietary "value add" (eg, rent seeking), and FOSS only enters in as a foundation on which the vendor is a free rider. You can be sure they "value" non-programmers, because that's how they get paid (sales, marketing, support, licensing, etc).
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