@dashie The "Getting started" have been butchered.

@Sylvhem the getting started sidebar ?
I think it's a refactoring after the trendings #

@dashie But I thought the trending functionality was discarded due to the backslash?

@Sylvhem yes it was, but gargron refactored the sidebar later after that

@dashie But why then if there is no longer trends?

@Sylvhem @dashie To be fair, it was starting to be quite loaded.

@tcit Yeah, and now it's useless --'.

@dashie

@Sylvhem @dashie Not everyone uses a huge screen. For enboarding it's fine.

@tcit My screen isn't huge. It's a regular desktop screen --'.
And I prefer to scroll to access the content of the menu that to have a menu with no useful content at all.

@dashie

That's a real mess.

@Sylvhem the whole mastodon UI is a mess :(

@dashie It used to be good :(. And it could be easily improved.

Seriously, in the latest versions, the only place where a link to /about/more was prominently displayed was the Getting Started menu. That was criticized various time, because a lot of new users missed the rules because of that.
And now it's even worse!

@Sylvhem And we've also got this

@louise Wait, seriously? How? I thought it was dropped?
We don't have that here.

@Sylvhem @louise

Si cherche un hashtag dans la barre de recherche. #testhashtag

@Nocta @Sylvhem

@louise Ça ne doit prendre en compte que les hashtags locaux au moins.

@Nocta

@Nocta Mais noooooooooooon 😭.

@louise

@Sylvhem @louise

sur kitty.town pour comparaison

Look at this!

Seriously, I'm so fucking angry right now.

Look, trending hashtags are not even on the final release note, what the fuck?

https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/releases/tag/v2.4.1

@Sylvhem he removed them.. like a week ago or smth

@MightyPork They don't look really removed to me.

@Sylvhem @MightyPork There's still usage information, but no way to see what's trending

@renatolond At least it won't be used as an harassment engine. But now I have this totally useless feature who take a lot of visual space in the column. Nice 👌.

@MightyPork

@Sylvhem @renatolond i'm really glad we don't use vanilla here because the vanilla Getting Started column is really sad

@MightyPork @Sylvhem Yeah, a revert back to pre-"trending" idea would've been better, a lot of unused space now that could have the links back .-.

@renatolond Yeah… That's probably a good idea to sort them based on their use, but there is no need to display things like that --'.

@MightyPork

@lanodan @Sylvhem @MightyPork trends are definitely gone in master since at least my last deploy a few days ago, and probably before that but my memory is failing me here

@bea @lanodan @MightyPork Yeah, like someone pointed out, that's not really trends but only the popularity of each hashtags.

@Sylvhem @lanodan @MightyPork ahhhhhhhhh in the search results, gotcha. that was added before the trending thing and is still around. i don't think it's going anywhere

@lanodan @MightyPork @Sylvhem i'm not sure i understand the question

At least, those can't be used as a tool for harassment campaign. But that's also a feature that is totally useless unless you're on a really big instance like mastodon.social, Switter or Pawoo.
Thank you for taking all the visual space 👍.

Also, I love how this feature basically make every, small, medium and even some large instances looking like they are almost empty.

"Nobody is talking about this nor that. Nobody, personne, nada, 0. Look, this chart is flat."

@Sylvhem They're just kinda broken

@louise @Sylvhem They start counting only after 2.4.1 deploy:

@renatolond@masto.donte.com.brWell, at least, it may improve other time…

@louise

@Sylvhem Does get a bit better over time:

@louise

@Sylvhem Si au moins c'était désactivable dans les paramètres de l'instance, comme Gargron a demandé de faire pour pas mal de PR (genre les colonnes qui prennent la largeur) :x

@Sylvhem it looks okayish to me, but not really useful overall with the low hashtag use

@Thib Yeah. That's not a disaster, but if I had to choose I will remove it without any second thought.