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Was musing in the shower this morning about how leftist words and phrases have been co-opted by TED-a-like capitalist tech-deifying talking heads in order to sell technological solutions to non-technological problems.

And wondered if we might do the reverse and steal their tone and pacing to sell leftist ideas to the same audience. The, like, concerned, earnest, calm-voiced white man.

"I want to describe to you a _radical_ … _revolutionary_ idea… One that will allow us to harness all the power of humanity to face civilization's most pressing problems: Wealth inequality, the climate crisis, racism, sexism… It will require a bold rethinking of how our society is organized and what things we value. It will disrupt the currently dominant forces in computing, social media, manufacturing, food, service… even the defense and criminal justice industries!"

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Just to be clear: This is a shitpost, not a tactical suggestion. I'm trying to have a chuckle about how easy it is to arrange these words in such a way that means nothing or anything. And sort of lament that several of them have been leeched entirely of their impact in this way.

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@starkatt I'm also dismayingly good at arranging the word-like components of corpspeak into sentences that seem, also, to appear to mean things, maybe. Or nothing!

@benhamill it's late, and I've been having trouble parsing stuff like this when I've been wide awake the past few days.

But also, sometimes I'm just curious what the results would be.

@benhamill the sad thing is, I've had to get so fluent in capitalist that this almost sounds like something that a capitalist would unironically say while asking other, more rich, capitalists for additional venture funding.

@lucianlutrae Yeah. Exactly. It’s the intro for a series A funding round presentation or a TED talk about how we should just listen to each other more or an exhortation to socialism. It’s vacuous.

@benhamill I mean, just write it as an article. And see if you can get it published anywhere.

@benhamill We honestly don't see the value in it. In our opinion, the goal of a leftist should be to fight the white supremacy inherent to our capitalist society. Part of that includes dismantling the "refined" perception that comes with being "well-mannered" and whatnot.

We should be convincing people that their anger is justified regardless of the way they express it, not to hide it behind "refinement".

@KitsuneAlicia Oh. No, yes. This was 100% facetious. Just to chuckle at how easy it is to line these words up so that they could mean kind of anything. Or nothing. Crap. I shoulda made that more apparent.

@KitsuneAlicia (I hope it's cool that I'm boosting your replies. I wanna make that context visible, too. But I can unboost if you'd prefer).

@benhamill There's a racist history behind the whole "refined" thing. It was used as a way to justify trusting a "properly-speaking" white man over his "uncouth" Black slave.

The Cockney accent and how it's frowned upon is a remnant of the days when the British monarchy had done the same to separate the nobles from the masses.

Our goal shouldn't be to adopt their way of speaking, but rather, to encourage people to speak their own way.

@KitsuneAlicia @benhamill I would add that I still perceive value in subverting the language and tone [they] use: appealing to and swaying the bystanders of the "argument".

@KitsuneAlicia @benhamill

Like the whole "facts don't care about your feelings". The thing is, [objective] facts _don't_ "care" about your feelings. And to someone coming into the discussion without all of the context, it seems like whoever is saying that is in the "right"/on the side of sanity.
But those spouting this line are often solely using it to dismiss the feelings of one group, often by promoting fallacious "facts".

@KitsuneAlicia @benhamill
If one can use that same phrase to counter their arguments/"logic", it can serve as a "wake-up" call to those watching/being persuaded that, at the very least, things aren't as simple [and those trying to make it appear so are thus of questionable intent].

@Jayjader @benhamill Oh, for sure. We've already adopted the "facts don't care about your feelings" one, tbh. Likewise for stressing the "basic" part of "basic biology" that TERFs like to claim so as to signal there's more to gender than just the basics.

But we what we did in order to point out that we're never gonna win over a bigot. Anything we do has to cater to and win over the outside observer.

@Jayjader @benhamill That's why the "refined" look isn't worth adopting and it's better to instead legitimize people's anger.

We should turn their language against them and reclaim our own, but adopting their language serves little point.

@Jayjader @benhamill I guess what I'm saying is, there's a difference between using their language to counter their ideas and using it to further our own.

The former has a purpose, but the latter only serves to rebuild the systems of oppression we're trying to dismantle in the first place.

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