A wonderment: Do others use words like “how’re” and “I’d’ve” in regular writing? Or is that idiosyncratic to me?

The best contraction, by the way, is “y’all’d’ve”. Which, when I say that to other Texans and get a quizzical look, I just say, “Oh, y’all’d’ve loved it,” and they’re like, “Oh. Yeah. Obviously.”

Realized that I think the “correct” spelling of the possessive second person plural pronoun is “y’alls” (rather than “y’all’s”) in parallel with “his”, “hers”, “its”, “theirs”, etc.

@benhamill whomst'd've used more odd and/or complex contractions than we'd've used, m'friend, whomst'd've?

@benhamill idiosyncratic maybe, but not uniquely so

fwiw, one thing i've found with contractions is that they can often be deliberately avoided to good effect. consider the cadence of speech with and without them: the former tends to be more casual, the latter subtly deliberate and even emphatic


I do, but not in formal writing.

But, nowadays, I rarely do any formal writing.

@benhamill Yes, but depends on the context. I also use "Who'dve" but with only the two apostrophes (seemingly incorrectly). From what I can tell they're recognised informal contractions.

@benhamill I would assume it would be short for "you all dove", as in

"You see what happen when that bomb fell? y'all'd've!"

@The_T Hah! But that’s not generally how contractions work in English. The apostrophe indicates letters missing _and_ a word boundary.

Not sure if already obvious, but it’s: you + all + would + have.

@benhamill y'all'd've is a completely normal word, and I don't know why it would confused anyone.

It does annoy me that I can't swipe it on my keyboard, though.

@benhamill you know I don't put them in my writing, but I use those contractions plenty

@benhamill I think I've used some before and thought "huh that's weird, but no, that are all words I meant to put together"

@benhamill I do the latter on occasion and every time I do, I wonder the same thing.

Define “regular” writing?

Informal such as instant messaging and social media, yes.

Formal such as documenting things at work, no.

Creative writing, no, but that's more due to stringent of internal rules about evoking non-Earth milieus.

@kissmeagainarthas Ah. Intended "regular" in the temporal sense: routine, often, day-to-day, etc. Like... I don't use "I'd've" in a README at work not because of tone, exactly, but because I often want the author to be entirely absent and often don't even want to address the reader, but only talk about the software. I guess that's tone, but isn't necessarily about formality. Hmm.

I haven't done "formal" writing since college, really. IDK. This is a weird topic.

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