Whatever Happened to the Semantic Web? https://twobithistory.org/2018/05/27/semantic-web.html
Thanks for that informative link.
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@enkiv2 Caveat: I am a member of the Doctorow camp on this one.
I thought the article covered the history and the technologies pretty well. I do think it had two major flaws. It was much, much too charitable to JSON-LD, which is as much of a tangle of overengineered standards as XML RDF, if not moreso (look up how to do JSON-LD Signatures, for example). The other flaw is that it casually equates the survival of the open web with the Semantic Web, which is sketchy.
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@gcupc I'm not 100% in the Doctorow camp, basically on the grounds that Doctorow assumes certain conditions that I consider avoidable, but I agree with Doctorow that all proposed semantic web technologies are going to have the problems he explains in that essay. As I've explained elsewhere, I think 'open web' has always been a mirage -- the way the web was structured has always privileged the kind of centralization we see now.
@enkiv2 This is interesting!
<< RDF was originally conceived of as a tool for modeling metadata and was partly based on earlier attempts by Ramanathan Guha, an Apple engineer, to develop a metadata system for files stored on Apple computers.8 The Semantic Web working groups at W3C repurposed RDF to represent arbitrary kinds of general knowledge. >>
@enkiv2 Nothing, it's experiencing healthy growth!
Have you seen the diagrams showing how the Semantic Web is growing year by year?
So is the number of lines of COBOL in service at banking institutions.
@enkiv2 Great artical though! Even if I view it's title as hyperbole, not that everyone does.
@enkiv2 A few years back I saw an interesting impromptu debate at an AI conference between Tim Berners-Lee and Peter Norvig, CTO of Google's search quality (and AI expert... he wrote the book). It was interesting, and suggested that detailed in this article.
@enkiv2 The missing part of this article is the semantic web's life in the academic/research/GLAM space, where it's definitely alive. There's a subculture of semantic-web hucksters in this space, too, and a corresponding backlash against them. You don't mention RDF in certain circles because of this.
(My current work project is based around using JSON-LD and schema.org to describe research datasets: the draft spec is here https://github.com/UTS-eResearch/datacrate/blob/new_draft/0.2/spec/0.2/data_crate_specification_v0.2.md)
@enkiv2 p.s. look up "RDF and ordered lists", if you feel like laughing or crying or tearing your hair out
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