me: wow this foss project is so great i love it
foss project: don't bully nazis
they don't need defense. no one is born a nazi. no one is accidentally a nazi. it's not a mistake or something that just happens. you don't need to defend their free speech because they CHOOSE to advocate and stand for genocide. that's not worthy of protection and they don't have to use your platform.
standing up to genocidal people shouldn't be a punishable offense if you care about basic human decency.
When you ban someone from your platform or ban their content for standing up to racists, transphobes, eugenics ass people, what you are saying is that:
1.) No, we don't want them to feel alienated. We care about their comfort.
2.) We don't want the dirty brown disabled queers thinking that we care about their safety
As an addendum, write.as clarified the situation and shall be saved from the dragging. Which is great bc I really do love their UI. https://writing.exchange/users/write_as/statuses/102334056039196277
@guerrillarain I keep thinking I should make an ice-themed picture of peach from mario as an actual nazi to use as an image macro for this, but tbh I wouldn't play peach that way, she doesn't deserve it.
@guerrillarain A FOSS dev who doesn't tolerate bigotry walks into a bar.
He trips 'cause it was set so low.
@pillowcat I woke my partner up chuckling at this.
@guerrillarain cloud you please snitch out what foss (or foss'es) you were talking about when you started the thread?
I try to avoid those nazi apologist craps as much as I can but sometime I'm not aware
@ardydo a subtoot about peertube, pixelfed, and write.as but it seems the write.as thing was a fluke and they corrected the issue https://writing.exchange/users/write_as/statuses/102334056039196277
@guerrillarain peertube I was aware but pixelfed too? They seemed so nice and on the right track. Welp, fuck'em.
Thanks for the heads up :)
That said, he literally just posted this:
I guess we can keep an eye out on dansup for the next days... pixelfed is really a project that I'd like to use and etc but those things are such a turn off... I mean, I can't wait for more instances to start using florence :) (because we're so damn tired of masto dev, damn.)
@maloki Jesus. It seems like I've been missing a lot of things happening in the fediverse.
@anna Yo, I got no clue, I have been sleeping all day....
A good chunk of the fediverse left corpo social media because of the TERFS and nazis. The lack of tracking and monetization is a nice bonus and nothing more. So saying "let's just concentrate on the best X alternative" does nothing for them as long as that alternative has nazis and TERFS.
Nobody thinks "well, my experience as a trans person is second guessed constantly, but at least it's FOSS, and we're sticking it to the man". THE killer feature of the fediverse is precisely the fact that we can choose who takes part in our community.
I don't think he really gets that.
PeerTube? I hadn't heard of them being bad, what did they do/say?
@guerrillarain lembra que eu falei que sempre tem um erro grotesco em postagens minhas que as pessoas interagem? Eu escrevi "cloud" no lugar de "could" e só notei agora
@guerrillarain and what about peertube? I thought they were decent 💔
@guerrillarain They went ahead and called people concerned insane and were really dismissive.
I dunno, still feel bad.
@guerrillarain But also not doing that and just saying no to Nazis is cool too.
@pillowcat they clearly don't have the morals to say no to nazis so they might as well say they like nazis with their chests instead of cowering under fake free speech defenses ☹️
@guerrillarain Are morals really that hard to get? Like, am I mistaken here? I thought saying no to Nazis was pretty damn easy line to draw and far from a radical position.
Not only that, but also for me, that's a form of self defense because nazis fascists or altright people will eventually kill me if their ideology is allowed to propagate.
So I'm acting in self defense
@guerrillarain my problem is that you also get used to bullying and persecuting. But I think what we're talking about here isn't bullying, it's just not being inviting. It's saying "the grownups are talking, could you please do your fascisming outside?"
Gah. Keeping ones language anywhere near the truth is tiring.
@guerrillarain That's the funny part.
Folks want to act like this is a complicated issue.
It's not. It never has been.
@guerrillarain forever and ever and ever a mood
@guerrillarain Which project did that?
@guerrillarain Big big big mood, it's so fucking disappointing
@guerrillarain the thing I don't get is how one can bully someone steeped in an ideology that wants to brutally kill anyone not fitting their psuedoscientific standards? It boggles the mind.
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