Apparently, the danish songwriter's union (KODA) is in conflict with Google over how much YouTube should pay musicians.

If you tomorrow suddenly can't listen to Volbeat, Aqua, D-A-D, or Alfabeat on youtube, it's because KODA hasn't allowed the current licensing deal to be extended.

This is your irregularly scheduled Scandinavian reminder to join a union!
(I'm a member of two; KODA is one of them)

To be clear, it's Google that's about to remove all danish music from YouTube, because KODA won't accept a 70% decrease in licensing payment to musicians.

The new deal they're trying to negotiate is a collective deal including Norwegian and Finnish songwriters unions too, so it may or may not include all music from Norway and/or Finland too.

This could include bands such as ABBA, Roxette, Ace of Base, Avicii, Nightwish, HIM, Arch Enemy, HammerFall, Opeth, Apocalyptica.

They motherfucking did it. Google is now blocking everyone in Denmark from hearing Danish music on YouTube.

Everyone else can hear our music but us.

What The Fuck.

Article from Danish Songwriter's Union in Danish:
koda.dk/om-koda/nyheder/fa-sva

@zatnosk I don't really understand why the music is available in other countries - why isn't it blocked everywhere? That doesn't add up to me.

Thanks for the link to koda.dk, I'll probably find some interesting reading on there.

Btw "manowar.social" gave me a laugh too, I'll have to check that out.

@human_equivalent because KODA only represents the musicians in Denmark. Outside Denmark, Danish musicians are represented by other organizations, and then the music is subject to different licensing deals.

@zatnosk Okay, thanks, I guess that makes sense.
Do we know what deals the musicians have outside of Denmark? Out of curiosity.

@human_equivalent I have no idea. And I'm pretty sure Google is very interested in keeping the details secret.

@zatnosk

If it's the same as in other countries, they will represent the economic beneficiary, which may or may not be the rights holder, which may or may not (and likely won't) be the #artist.

In some countries those organisations also have the habit of claiming royalties even for beneficiaries / artists who chose *not* to be represented by them.

Not defending alphabet, far from it, but those orgas are nice little rackets themselves.

@human_equivalent

@0 @human_equivalent Eh, I'm a member of KODA and have had a decent experience as a smalltime musician.

I don't know if KODA has better behavior than similar orgs in other countries, but I know it's a member-owned democratic union of musicians, so that's already a plus compared to alphabet/google in my book.

@zatnosk

That's good to hear. 👍

I've come across musicians who'd had a radically different experience with their home country orgas (Spain + France), hence my comment.

@human_equivalent

@zatnosk @human_equivalent

That's including one band that pirated their own CDs. 😁

@0
KODA does claim royalties for everyone by default. I've heard it's almost impossible to be not represented by them.
On the other hand, they chased down one of my friends and paid him for an ASCII chart he'd posted on Usenet decades ago which someone had credited in a text book, so there is that...
@zatnosk @human_equivalent

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