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What kind of Linux distribution would one want to try on a laptop as someone who used to use Arch but has had too many annoying bugs that they didn't have the time to deal with?

Distro should ideally not be in my way, and software development should be easy…

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Went for a Linux Mint install, things appear to be working ok for now… In the meantime, more and more programs are hanging randomly on my Arch installs. ☹

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For some reason I am getting the same random hangs on Debian Stable and Testing? Yay…

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@lexi Arch, but set up differently?

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@trisschen I don't think I will be able to root cause the problem though; Element, Signal, Discord and others just keep getting stuck for minutes at a time and don't accept keystrokes, while Telegram Desktop just crashes. They all work fine on MacOS and Windows. The problem happens on 8GB, 16GB and 64GB machines…

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@lexi I guess the point that's hiding behind my earlier thought is that something like that could just as well end up happening when using a different distribution. So a reset of as much as reasonably possible (or even complete reinstallation) might help just as much. But of course it's perfectly valid to want to try something else at that occasion :)

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@lexi Like, I had a kinda similar-ish situation (weird issues that didn't make sense) with a Debian system a few months ago. I ended up reinstalling Debian instead of trying to find some other distribution which fits that system's needs, and found what triggered the issues on the way, so I could find some way to do the thing that doesn't trigger the issues.

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@trisschen ok but I have those issues on 4 different computers, all of which are running Arch

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@lexi Huh, weird. Are they configured a lot in very similar ways?
If yes, might still be worth a try if that's what you want.
If not, that's very weird, and I'd guess they might share just exactly that bit of configuration that triggers these issues.

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@trisschen I don't know… I deleted the configs for those messengers and set them up again on some of the machines to no avail, so I would just like to see whether the issue also exists on a different distribution. And possibly use that one for a while if it doesn't.

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@lexi I'd rather expect the issue to be some other configuration than the messenger's own, or maybe some incompatibility with something else that's running. Like window manager or some library or something. But sadly no idea what could cause such issues.

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@lexi maybe some ibus thingy? Had keyboard hanging issues on a Ubuntu system that were caused by this

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@trisschen I would guess some bug in electron or some dependency thereof

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@lexi I really like debian testing on my devices. It might be behind a version or two on some things, but in general it's not old and it works pretty well

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@lexi we are using manjaro atm. Stuff is really similar to arch (aur, package commands, etc) and so far no little annoying bugs that i have to write on my to fix list.

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@lexi if your problems are with element, signal & co maybe try to install them via flatpak? Otherwise I'm still happy enough with Ubuntu (when you replace their weird gnome theme). But also there I would still install them with flatpak, which works without problems for me.

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@karoshi might be worth a try

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@lexi what hardware? can you describe the hangs more?

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@LittleFox
Hardware:

• Thinkpad X230 (Debian stable/testing, Arch Linux)
• GPD Pocket 2 (Arch Linux)
• GPD P2 Max (Arch Linux)
• Schenker Slim 14 (Arch Linux)

Works on GPD Pocket 2 under Linux Mint for some reason.

Symptoms: messengers based on Electron (Element, Signal, Discord, etc) hang for minutes at a time, not accepting inputs or updating their output, others (e.g. Telegram Desktop) just crash every couple of minutes. Happens on i3, Sway and KDE.

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@LittleFox the problems are also *not* exhibited on an XMG Pro 17 2017 (Windows 10), a Macbook Air 2020 (Mac OS 11), and a custom AMD Ryzen workstation (Windows 10), so this appears to be a Linux specific problem, but it happens across several distros.

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@LittleFox I wanted to try Fedora too but didn't have the patience to try and make that one work on the X230…

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@LittleFox note that the laptops affected have various amounts of RAM (8 GB on the Pocket 2, which works with Mint; 16 GB on the P2 Max and X230, 64 GB on the Slim 14)

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@lexi huh thats a wide range of configs o_o

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